Selebi collected bag stuffed with R110 000, court told
Glenn Agliotti, the key state witness in the corruption trial of former National Police commissioner Jackie Selebi, was a compulsive liar who began to believe he was above the law, but he was also overtly generous and handed the former Interpol head thousands of rands stuffed in a bank bag, the South Gauteng High Court was told yesterday, writes Legalbrief.
Agliotti's former girlfriend, Dianne Marie Muller, told the court she had seen Selebi leave her business premises with a bank bag similar to the one into which she had counted out R110 000 at Agliotti's request. Selebi disputes that he had ever received R110 000 from his former friend to take his family on holiday. According to the witness, says a report in The Citizen, Selebi had been embarrassed by her presence in the boardroom that day. 'I took it (the bank bag of money) to the boardroom. I put the bag on the table, in front of Agliotti. He put his hands on the bag and slipped it across to Mr Selebi and said words to the effect: 'Here you go, my china'. 'Mr Selebi looked decidedly uncomfortable at me being in the room. He did not then touch the bag. It remained on the glass table,' she testified. Muller had gone out and closed the door. From her office she could see the boardroom. Later she had seen Selebi leave. Asked by prosecutor Gerrie Nel if she had taken any steps to report the matter, Muller replied: 'How do you report something to the police when their boss is the person implicated?'
Full report in The Citizen
Muller said on average Selebi came twice a month to the offices that she moved her business into in 2004, always 'dressed in full uniform'. She said Agliotti would place payments allegedly destined for Selebi in envelopes marked with the initials JS. Asked how she knew the JS stood for Jackie Selebi, she said: 'When Glenn Agliotti had written on the envelopes that said JS, they would leave with Jackie Selebi.' However, later she said she never actually saw the envelopes in his hand. A report on the IoL site notes that Muller said that on another occasion Agliotti had received a call on his car phone. 'Selebi asked Glenn can he please lend him R10 000 for his son's birthday party.' Agliotti agreed but said he did not have the money on him and he would have to come and collect it another time. 'Glenn then turned to me and said 'lend my ass, I'll never see that money again'.' The next morning Selebi arrived at the office. 'Glenn told me he handed over the money.' On another occasion, she confronted Agliotti about the 'exorbitant' amounts of money he was spending on clothes accounts. 'He said it was not for him, that he was buying clothes for Mr Selebi.' Muller described the relationship between Agliotti and Selebi as a 'friendship of gain'. 'I think they used each other for what they could gain from the friendship.'
Full report on the IoL site
Muller also told the court she had asked Agliotti to move out of her house because he was a liar. A Mail & Guardian Online report notes that Muller cast doubt on Agliotti's credibility, but in principle confirmed his evidence that Selebi collected cash from their Midrand office. 'I think we both know the credibility of Mr Agliotti,' Muller told Selebi's counsel Jaap Cilliers during cross-examination. 'I never assumed that anything he told me was fact. I moved him out of my house because of his inability to tell the truth'. Muller stood firm as Cilliers questioned her own credibility. She admitted to never actually having seen Selebi leaving the Midrand office with an envelope of money, but insisted that he left with the bank bag stuffed with R110 000 cash which she helped to pack. Some of Muller's evidence contradicted that of Agliotti, notes the report. Agliotti testified that Muller's father and the financial director of her company, Martin Flint, had cashed a cheque for R100 000, which he then brought to Muller's office, and added R20 000 to make a R120 000 package for the 'cash cop'. 'It's a very bothering situation,' said Cilliers, 'that in Mr Agliotti's version, he said that Flint was the person who drew the money'. Muller, however, said that Selebi had come to the office first, following which Agliotti arrived with cash, and asked her to pack R110 000 in a money bag, which she then gave to Agliotti to give to Selebi. She claims that Flint was not present at the time. Court adjourned early for Cilliers to scrutinise the court record before resuming cross-examination this (Thursday) morning.
Full Mail & Guardian Online report